The Transition to Poison Bird Blinds
  
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  "Down the Shore" & "Decheating" Progression
              
(thoughts & efforts from "somewhere" in the middle of a journey)            

    
 
          updated: Jan 2010
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       initial phase:
     
           After swim-by, there are several drills and set-ups that my pups work as the journey progresses. The
           pictures represent a small segment of the many training sessions done during transition. They build
           on preceding lessons and acquired skills, involve doing what a pup needs "in the moment" and
           effective teaching. A sequential program is best presented when there is a teamwork focus.
 
  Right after swim-by, the next step is to do channel and parallel swims. Each reinforce the new standard for "more water" (or stay in the water). A pup needs to become "comfortable" with this concept. At first, the parallel/channel swims are nothing more than an extension of swim-by. These are "enriched" in different waters. 

Since the pup is familiar with getting in and out of the water at the "over" pile position in swim-by, this comfortable "target" is used for the pup's first, simple "decheating". This seamless approach provides   more depth in preparation for the complexity of "tuneup" drills. The goal is to use eventually use "tuneups" regularly to maintain skills. 

During these months of work, marking is kept straight forward. That is to say, non-cheating marks are
the norm. In addition, each pup is gradually and extensively introduced to place boards (from a young age). They learn to cast to them and run remote marks from them. They are very at ease on them.

2010 update: In the past, my dogs have been released from the line remotely by using their name. This year all the dogs will be taught something new. The release will be from the "tone" given off from my Tritronics Pro-100 e-collar. This was an idea learned from a "solo" training thread on the RTF. Thanks, Julie H.  This will eliminate two issues 1) no more shouting their names and/or 2) having them look back at me for the release.

second phase:

Their
first real "down the shore" set of singles is done remotely. * I throw the singles from the shore and remotely release the pup from the line. The first single is not terribly "cheaty", but in most cases the pup needs to be cast to stay on line. Since the trainer is in the "bird boy" position, it becomes a very simple exercise to cast the pup "back" into the water (more water) and "over" to the mark (on line). This approach is fresh with the pup because that's exactly how he was "kept in the water" on swim-by.

There are two important facts to keep in mind 1) handling to correct a line is an acceptable practice (not to the mark, but to the line of a mark) and 2) the dog has just recently learned the "more water" choice. I If the handler were at the line, the sequence would require "overs" (for more water) and "backs" (on the line) presenting a new and possibly confusing picture. By giving him "backs" from the shore, it is completely consistent with what was learned in swim-by while effectively countering shoreline suction (by "saying more water").  Through repetition on the more difficult second and third  "down the shore" singles, a pup generally "gets the picture" quickly. This is indicated by how most pups actually do better on each new mark even though the angles are more difficult.

Here are two questions to consider. If you were at the line and wanted an over (because the dog wants to beach), what difference is there in the "message" if the handler is in the field and gives a "back"?  In other words, the message is the same......"more water". Not only that, but the dog has just recently finished swim-by. If (in swim-by) he attempted to come to you (beach and not go "over"), how did you get him to take "more water". And the answer was first a "back" and then another "over". Where's the line?


The simplicity of this technique depends on understanding of how distance impacts control and responsiveness.  Less distance gives the "handler/bird boy" more influence over the pup's decision making process. Teaching is the focus. To repeat, since the concepts learned in swim-by are maintained, this new lesson is quickly grasped because familiar, consistent cues are used. When the trainer eventually moves to the line, the remote line presentation to the "down the shore" concept is more likely to "click" because the process is more seamless.  


To continue, in the  "solo" down the shore  photo. the first time I set this up the dog naturally tried to "cheat". I moved closer to the water (remember distance and control are directly related) and made two casts "back" and "over". At this stage in the dog's skill level this was seamless with swim-by. It's exactly the same. It should be noted, that if the handler were at the line the correct casts would be "over" and "back" which are the opposite of what the dog learned in swim-by. Therefore, "from the line" is less seamless (in this timeframe).

I like the word seamless in training. The idea of letting the dog see the correct line in terms that he understands makes it easier to see the "same picture" when transitioned to "down the shores" from the line.

Now the last question is...would this technique of handling from the gunner's station be appropriate later on? My thinking is "overs" and "backs" from the dog's point of view are nothing more than casts. Therefore, a dog use to working with directions from the handler (no matter where he is at) will understand.

The only other issue one might need to come to grips with is concern about too much focus on the gunner. A well trained dog in balance will know where the trainer is. Therefore, doing only stand alones with a young dog could be a problem. Of course, the really young dog is not going to be handled. Yet, isn't the young dog expected to be helped by the gunner (on occasion)?

Therefore, I don't find that teaching needs to have a singular focus of only being possible from the line.


This is a familiar parallel. Three handed casting is a much easier skill to teach when the pup and handler are "up close and personal".  Most pups become quite comfortable with "help" from a skilled gunner. They often can "make or break" the effectiveness of marking drills. Later when cold blinds enter the picture and distance is stretched, a handler will "hot foot it" after a pup so as to have less distance between them for the next cast. Better control and greater responsiveness makes for more effective teaching. Using the "distance factor" and consistent  cues provides a training advantage when teaching a new concept like "down the shore". 

On a side note, over a period of several years, the acquisition of "technical waters" (by permission or membership) are a great enhancement to training.  Each new pup reaps the benefits. |

                         (left click on thumbnails & use "Full Screen" in "Tools" for best viewing)

 
    
      "parallel swim"
 
    
           "tighter"
    
         "repetition"
    
       "left decheat"
    
      "right decheat"
    
        "1st tuneup"
    
     "water casting"
    
           "tuneup"
    
     "longer tuneup"
    
  "1st down the shore"
           (singles)
      
* see above
    "decheating" progression:

           After introducing the concept of maintaining a line in water ("handling" in the field), cheating singles
           are begun. Up until now water marking sessions have been designed to avoid cheating. With the use of
           "tuneup" drills, the technique of going straight to "cheaty" piles has been taught via the concept of
           "more water".  Basically, the pup is allowed to just "begin a cheat".....then whistle sat and cast back
           into the water to the correct line. More water is good. Sit and cast standards have long ago been
           established and attrition is the norm. 

           This is not an e-collar driven process.......it is teaching. Once the concept is understood then cast
           refusals due to poor choices can be enforced. An extreme response to the "get into the water"
           mentality is obvious when the line to a mark passes by a small corner of a pond and a dog
           intentionally goes off line to get his feet wet. 
          
           With the "1st long cheating single", a mark is thrown by a winger to a position where cheating will not
           occur. The "2nd long cheater" is designed to present a stark contrast to the 1st. The skills taught in lining
           drills have provided a mental picture of what is expected on these marks.....again using attrition. Repetition
           in many different areas is necessary as demonstrated by the longer and more challenging "contrast" marks
           (next four pictures). Eventually, multiple entries and exits become challenges which strengthen the skill.
           During this phase, regular "tuneup" drills continue to maintain the skill of angle entries and exits.  In
           addition, each pup starts to transfer the "straight" concept to terrain and cover changes. Doing this in
           increments allows for a seamless transition in maintaining straighter lines on marks (water and land).
           Flare and suction (and drift) are factors a dog must learn to deal with. 

           A critical aspect to this training is teaching a pup how to deal with the "dynamics of pressure".  This skill
           allows a pup to respond in a positive manner by making correct modifications in its action.....the taught
           "right choices".

           The concept of "straight" requires the "two-way street" of responsiveness. Consistent successes in making  
           proper responses (to pressure) becomes a powerful reinforcement of the teacher/student relationship.
           How teaching occurs at each level influences the next. A pup is more likely to thrive if the teacher is
           predictable, persistent and fair.

           Here is the example of earlier drill work which was effective because of recognizing the importance of
           using the "distance factor", measured control, balanced responsiveness and communication. Teaching
           should be enjoyable for both the dog and handler.                                                               
         
                                  
 (left click on thumbnails & use "Full Screen" in "Tools" for best viewing)
    
   "1st cheating single"
 
    
       "2nd cheater"
 
    
        "Right Cheat"
  
    
        "Right Cheat"
        (from mound)
   
    
         "Left Cheat"
  
    
         "Left Cheat"
        (from mound)
 
    
   "complex cheater"
 
    
       "tune-up drill"
  (left "zig" side heel)
  
 
     
       "tune-up drill"
 (right "zag" side heel)
 
    
      "up hill angles"
      (identified pile)
 
    
       "down angles"
  
    
      "larger up hill"
          (pile drill)
 
    
     "Down the Road"
            (singles)
        
   "Down the Levee"

        (right to left) 
         
      "up the cover"

           (in lines)
    
         
   "Down the Levee"  
        (left to right)

  
               
    
"four down the shore"
    (levee with water)
 
    
    "Down the Shore"
 



Next are two transition drills - Evan's Four Phase Drills & Definitive Casting Drills (diversion skills)
(under construction)
 
    
    "Four Phase Drill"
    (establish the pile)
 
   
         "FPD - A"
    (behind the gun)
 
   
         "FPD - B"
      (past old fall)
    
            "FPD C"
      (under the arc)
       "FPD D"
  (through old fall)
    
   "Definitive Casting"
         (beginning)    
      
   
       "DC middle"  
    
   
   "DC (near finish)"
        
  "Definitive Casting"
           (water) 
  
    "parallel swim"
 (real goose diversion)  
 
         
  "Definitive Casting" 
    (water variation)
   
 Definitive Casting Drill
 #6 - poison flyer blind
     (shot en route)
     
 

poison bird blinds and anti-flaring drills
(under construction)

  
   
     

      

       "Poison Bird"
           (blind)
 
     
        "Poison Bird"
             (blind)
   
      "Poison Bird"
           (blind)
  
     "Poison Bird"
(under the arc blind)
 
  "field trial blind"
          
         
        "No No Mound"
               (front)
     
       "No No Mound"
               (side)  
    
   "2nd longer drill"
  
  more "pics" to follow